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Situational Awareness Training, Daily Safety Tips and Neurodiversity With Viking Executive Protection Solutions CEO Roy Smith

by Faster Than Normal

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Welcome to the month of May! So, there are a few things you cannot buy in life: One of them is Time and your Life. Therefore people’s goal is to reclaim time and have peace of mind. For our guest today, Roy Smith, protecting others has always been his passion. An Executive Protection Specialist, Mr. Smith makes sure people come home after a busy workday, or a night out. His career in law enforcement has laid the foundation for his exceptional expertise in the security industry. His experience spans diverse roles. Roy worked with high-threat criminals – was a Gang Task Force Officer on the southern border of Texas. He was assigned to multiple Texas and Federal task forces to combat gangs, drug trafficking, etc. His goal at that time was to protect the community. Then Roy went into the Executive Protection field and graduated top of his class from one of the most renown academies in the US and won a prestigious award.  Security is not a luxury; it’s a necessity. Roy Smith understands this principle and has dedicated his life to ensuring the safety and well-being of those he serves. As the CEO and Executive Protection Specialist at Viking Executive Protection Solutions and Owner and President of Viking Tactical Security Group, Roy offers top-tier concierge executive protection services to high net worth clients, and high-threat security to media networks, and at events as well as a School Guardian Program for children. In addition to personal security, Viking provides assessment and situational awareness classes to empower individuals with essential knowledge and skills. Don’t miss this opportunity to hear from one of the industry’s leading professionals and learn how Roy Smith and his team at Viking Executive Protection Solutions can help you stay safe and secure in an unpredictable world. Today we learn how to stay heads-up, especially since it is unbelievably easy for us neurodiverse individuals to lose situational awareness. Enjoy!

00:40 – Thank you so much for listening and for subscribing!

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02:17 – Introducing and welcome Roy Smith!

03:36 – What is your company designed to do?

04:00 – Do you think there would be lower instances of crime if people were just more aware of their surroundings on a regular basis?

05:00 – Bad stuff can happen anywhere.. and you may not even be aware of all that you are not aware of, especially when ‘safe’ in your routines and cyclic norms. #HeadOnASwivel

08:04 – Challenging our habit of going into ‘autopilot’ when we commute and…

08:31 – When you get home…

09:00 – How do you practice being aware of new/odd patterns in your daily?

10:00 – How do you sit there and not dwell, or worry about one detail being a little off, once you’ve noticed it?

10:53 – Let’s talk about personal safety in the post COVID era

11:06 – Not quite like Jason Bourne’s default ready-state but.. what basic things should we remember to always do when going to:  a doctor’s appointment, a restaurant, movie theater, baseball park, whatever?

12:18 – A couple of tips for all travelers and event-goers awaiting the queue to shorten

14:19 – On the benefits of pet, (let alone well-trained pet), ownership; in public!

17:14 – How do you train your Neurodiverse, (or any), body to sort of not go into overdrive when something is happening? How do you use that dopamine and adrenaline to your advantage?

20:30 – On training your mind and body via live scenarios

20:45 – The benefits of using preparedness drills as part of your training

23:08 – How do our spectacular subscribers find out more about you? 

Telephone: (1+) 844-6-Viking aka: +1 (844) 684-5464. 

Web:  email:  info @

Socials:  @viking_eps on INSTA and @ vikingeps on Facebook and Twitter

24:06 – Thank you so much for making time for all of us today Roy!

24:24 – Hey, you there! Yes YOU! We are thrilled that you are here & listening! 

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TRANSCRIPT via Descript and then corrected.. mostly somewhat:  

As always, thank you Skylight for sponsoring this episode as well as many others of the Faster Than Normal Podcast. Discount Code:  PeterShankman for 10% off, up to $30 off.

[00:00:40] Peter: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another episode of Faster Than Normal. My name is Peter Shankman. I’m very happy you’re here. I just came back like literally four minutes ago from getting my butt kicked at Victory Boxing. So I’m still in a lot of breath, but I’m gonna try to get back into it. It seems like whenever the days I have an interview right after boxing, Uh, John, my trainer and the owner of Victory Boxing, make sure that I am dead when I arrive.

As always, over the past month, we have been fortunate enough to be sponsored by Skylight Frame. And guys, if you need a calendar for your family, for your kids, if your kids are neurodiverse, look at You order it, you hang it on your wall. It connects to your wifi. You import your calendars, you add chore lists. My daughter knows all her chores. She knows everything she has to do. There’s no more fights, no more arguments. She looks at the chores. She does them. She clicks the little button, the little touch screen, and it means that she’s done and she gets her Roblox cuz that pretty much is what kids exist on today under the age of 12. They exist on, on Robux and, and apparently high quality mac and cheese. Apparently, you know, regular mac and cheese that we ate as kids. No, that’s not good enough anymore. Skyline Frame is awesome. Use code PeterShankman at checkout. That will give you $30 up to * TEN DOLLARS NOT 30 off. I love the thing. You can also throw up all your photos on it. Uh, so when you’re not using the calendar, it just. Scrolls your entire life by you and it looks pretty cool. It’s in our kitchen. When I wake up at two in the morning to go get some cold water, I see a photo of me and my daughter or my dog, or my late cat, NASA, and it’s pretty awesome. Makes my night. So skylight code. PeterShankman up to 30 bucks off. You will not regret this. If you get it, send me a note, let me know that you have it, and uh, I’ll send you a photo for it. All right, thank you Skylight Frame. ed:  [As of May 2nd, 2023 they appear to have a Mother’s Day Special that’s a significant discount as well!!]

And speaking of Boxing… boxing leads to safety and security. Let’s talk to an executive protection specialist today. Let’s talk to Roy Smith. Roy Smith is the CEO of an Executive Protection Specialist at Viking Executive Protection Solutions based out of Austin. They offer top tier concierge executive protection services to high net worth clients in high threat security to media networks, at events, as well as school guardian programs for children and additional personal security. Viking provides assessment and situational awareness classes to empower individuals with essential knowledge and skills. And that’s what I have him here today to talk about the concept of situational awareness because, When you are neurodiverse, it is very easy to go down a rabbit hole and completely lose sight of what is around you, of what is coming towards you, of what’s behind you. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve had a book or I’m listening to a podcast or some music on the subway and I, I’m just in my own world. I look over to my left and someone completely different is sitting there as opposed to the person who was sitting there two stops ago and I’m, I’m a victim of this, I’m guilty of this as I’m sure everyone else is Roy, but I, you know, as someone who’s ADHD it is so unbelievably easy and much easier for me than a normal person to lose situational awareness. So welcome to the podcast, man. I’m really, I’m really looking forward to this interview. 

[00:03:36] Roy: Well, thank you. Thank you, Peter, for having me. It’s, it’s an honor. Um, I, I am aware of your podcast and like I said, to, to be on here to speak about safety and situational awareness, um, is is definitely something that is a thrill of mine. Um, I enjoy. Teaching and instructing people and advising people how to make, keep themselves safe. Cause that’s what we need in this world, is just for everyone to understand how to keep themselves safe. 

[00:03:59] Peter: I imagine I, I’m sure that there’d be a much lower instance of crime, especially in cities if people were just more aware of their surroundings on a regular basis. Right. 

[00:04:08] Roy: Oh, I agree. 110%. Um, some people just take things for granted. Uh, you know, when you get to a routine, you know, um, everyone has cycles and, and cycles doesn’t necessarily mean a bad thing. Cycles is a pattern. So everyone has cycles. When you get up in the morning, you have a pattern or everything that you do on a consistent basis, whether it’s wake up, first thing you do is go start your coffee or. Even when you go to take a shower, you know, you do the same routine. You always, the way you start the water, how you wash your body is always cycles. So the thing about situational awareness is, is allowing people to, to incorporate that into their cycles so that they’re more aware without actually even knowing that they’re more aware.

[00:04:51] Peter: I think, you know, one of the interesting things when you’re right, I think in a big city, by default you tend to keep your head in a swivel a little more than say if you live in the suburbs. But that can be deceiving because shit can happen anywhere. Right. You know, I, I, I always remember, um, I had a roommate my freshman year of college, great guy named Andy, but I remember that, that like a week into our freshman year, he’s getting dressed at like 7 30, 8 o’clock and I’m like, where you going? He’s like, oh, there’s a party. I’m like, and we went to Boston University. He’s like, oh. I’m like, oh, where is he? He is like, I dunno, it’s downtown near Chinatown somewhere. I’m like, do you know the area? He’s like, nah, no. Me and a friend are gonna go, we’ll walk down there. I’m like, do you know how to get home? Do you know how, you know it’s small, small city, Boston. Oh, okay. He was from somewhere in like a very small town in Miami or in Florida. Right. I’m like, okay, you and I need to sit down and have a conversation. You know, because I grew up in New York and although I’m not perfect, one of the first things you know is know your ins, know you’re outs, you know, have a couple of egress points, things like that. Um, and I see it, my daughter, I see her co, her head is constantly on a swivel. So I think, I think I’m doing well. But from an ADHD or a neurodiversity perspective, you know, we do tend to fall into those ruts, into those routines. You know, I, I remember, uh, there’s a reason that Obama, when he was president, he never, he never jo, or, or I think it was maybe, maybe Bush two never jogged the same route twice or never took the same route. You know, to the capitol twice or this way twice or whatever, there was always, you know, four or five different routes they could have made. And that was clearly to, you know, to, to not fall into a pattern. So let’s talk about, you know, there might be people who are just going back to the office now for the first time, right? And they’re going, they’re falling back into their old patterns. They go this way. They get on this road, they take this road to this highway entrance and this highway exit, and they, and they stop at this place for coffee. And they walk in, they stand in the same spot because it’s easy repetition. Unfortunately, it’s easy. 

[00:06:39] Roy: You’re, you’re exactly right. Um, and we’re all guilty of that. We’re all guilty of that. Even I’m guilty of that. Um, you know, and the thing about it is, is understanding that, that you need to be able to change that. And that comes with just learning and, and, and understanding the why to do it. It’s not so much to do it. So understand the why. Once you understand the why. Then it’s easier to incorporate. Uh, you used to nail on the head when you said, uh, coffee shop. Um, here in Austin, there’s one, not even like a block away from the apartment that I stay in when I’m in Austin and I get into a habit, to a point where I, I like to go there. Well, then I switch up, you know, and, and that’s like, you know what, I, I’ve been there twice today, okay. Or twice this week. Let me go, go to another one. And that’s it. It’s just something triggers it in my head for me to not do that. Or something says, you know what? I’m not gonna go this route. Imma go this route. And that just comes with. Uh, little bit of training, but everyone and anyone can do it. It’s just trying to incorporate things into a routine. Even people with, um, A D H D, you know, and ADD, you can do that if you really focus on, uh, on setting a nice routine or a couple routines. Um, now sometimes the routes and stuff like that may be more difficult cause once you get into your car and you know where you’re going, You, you automatically go on autopilot, right? You know, and it happens. You could be in your car driving home and next thing you know, you just pass your exit. Why? Because you, you started spacing off, think about something, right? And you’ve already missed it because your body’s automatically driving to one location that it’s used to going. So those, those patterns are, are difficult. But the ones that can really protect you, um, are the ones when you go out in public, you know. Um, the one thing that I, I, I try to tell people is, is do this. You know, when you get home, just look around, see, try to figure out what cars are your neighbors, and then play a game with yourself. You know, say, okay, that’s so-and-so’s car, that’s so-and-so’s car, you know? I understand. Okay. That’s Josh’s car. That’s, that’s Daisy’s car? Yep. Okay. Oh, wait, that’s not Daisy’s car. Oh, you know what? That’s Daisy’s daughter’s car, you know. To play games and, and, and challenge yourself to recite whose vehicles it is because then when you see a car that isn’t Daisy’s, isn’t Daisy’s daughter or Josh’s car, you’d be like, wait. That car’s not normally there. Okay. I wonder who car that is. Right? And why are they at, at their home? 

[00:09:11] Peter: How do you, how do you do that? And especially for Neurodiverse who are very, not only creatures of habit, but are very much all or nothing type people. I mean, there have been situations where I’m, where I’m driving with my daughter back from school and we’re on our scooter, right? And we’re driving up ninth Avenue research up up 10th Avenue, and I see something that outta the corner of my looks like, huh, that might become a thing like those two people look like they’re facing off. That might become a fight. And automatically I’m trained on that and that’s what I’m gonna be focused on until I see, you know, it’s, we are very, we have, we have addictive personalities. We’re very much about, oh, something exciting. Let’s follow that. So how do you. While those are, I mean, those are great ideas. What do you do to make sure that you don’t go down that rabbit hole and then you spend the entire night going, oh my God, whose car is that? You know, you’re jumping on next door and you’re like, you know, how do you, how do you, how do you let that go? Or at least become aware of it? But don’t, don’t dwell on it. 

[00:10:08] Roy: You know, that’s a good question. It’s a very good question. Um, and, and a lot of it, uh, I have a friend of mine who, who she does that, uh, quite a bit, you know, and, and I just try to redirect her a little bit when she starts going down that rabbit hole by just challenging, okay, why are you still thinking about it? You know? And once she, once she verbalizes why, Then she snaps out of it. Because the whole thing of it, if if it stays on her head and she doesn’t hear herself say it, then she’s more inclined to stay on that target. Right. But once she hears herself, say it out loud, she’s like, you know what, I don’t need to be worried about that. Okay, I can move on. And then she moves on. But a lot of it’s just verbalizing it out loudly. With auditorial congnition. To get her to hear it and then she can move on. 

[00:10:50] Peter: Right. Let’s talk for a second about personal safety when a lot of us working from home, working from different places now, so you go to a coffee shop. You mentioned, I heard you mentioned before that you can sit facing the door, not your back to the door. Mm-hmm. Sit facing. Correct. I’ve been doing that for years and years and years. I, I don’t even know what, what started me to do it, but I’ve, as far as I know, I’ve been doing this like high school. What other tips and tricks. Can you give someone when they walk into, I, I always remember the, remember the original Jason Borne film where he is, he, he, he doesn’t remember anything, but he goes into the restaurant with the girl and he is like, I don’t remember anything, but I know that there’s, you know, two exits here and that guy is, is having an affair. And this guy’s reading the newspaper backwards. You know, he, he just automatically is trained, I guess, to notice all these things. What’s the. What tips can you give someone who may be neurodiverse, who may be, you know, their brain is going a million miles a minute in different, you know, constant different locations and different firing in different places. What basic things can you get them to sort of instill into their brain to always do when they go to a restaurant, when they go to a movie theater, when they go to a baseball park, whatever. 

[00:11:48] Roy: The first thing you should always do whenever you go to any type of establishment. Um, and this is just for personal safety. Um, it’s always find the exit doors, always know where your exits are. Um, Just be able to look around and find out where they’re, are they to the left, to the right? Are they the end of the hallway? Is there a break? You know, where are the restrooms? You know, that’s a big thing because a lot of people, um, they have to ask, well, if you walk into a place, that’s one of the first things you find is the exits in the restrooms, then you know where hallways are. So those are are key points, you know, um, so you know, front doors, you know exits, you can see hallways, where restrooms are, those are key. Those are the main tips. And, and why the restrooms? Okay, so in the event that there is a, a emergency situation, The safest places to go is places that have, that are enclosed. And the reason why you want enclosed, because regardless if it’s, um, a weather related situation or if it’s a threat situation, you wanna get out from the open area, you want to get to a place where you have cover. So those are, are, are those key areas. So that’s why I mentioned hallways and look for those things, you know, doors where you can go inside a room, you know, and protect yourself. Bathrooms are, are very, very good for installations for that. So those should be the first couple things you, you, you notice. Um, and that’s the first thing that I do whenever I walk into a place. And then once again, Always ask for a certain table, always not a certain table, a certain table with a certain view. You know, do not, do not just let them sit you anywhere. Um, say, you know what, can I sit at this table? You know, and, and, and, and request that? So you get into a habit and a pattern of, of having, like you said, facing the door, facing the exit so you can see people coming in and coming out. Um, is one thing. Another thing is, do not put your bags and your vo vo valuables on the chair in front of you, uh, when it’s more in close to other people as they walk by. That is a safety and security hazard 1 0 1. Do not do that. Keep ’em close to you, you know, on the chair next to you or right by, on the floor right beside you. Do not put it in the adjacent chair. 

[00:13:55] Peter: Very good. Really good stuff. I mean, it’s, it’s, you know, and I think a lot, the thing is a lot of it is very basic common sense, but, but we. Common sense is not that common. 

[00:14:04] Roy: You’re right. Security overall it is a lot of, of common sense. Um, but it’s applying it is more the difficult aspect of it. Yeah. Um, getting into a routine and a habit, you know? Um, So I have a, a protection dog, um, that, that works with the company, and, and he, he wor, he travels with me. The one thing that I’ve noticed watching him is when we are in an establishment, he positions himself behind me, huh? So that he can watch behind me. You know, and that’s what his role, so his mode is to watch my back. So he’s positioned himself behind me to watch if anything comes from behind me, you know? And I noticed that the other day when we were at Starbucks, he, he stopped from being my side and turned my back. So those are just little things that he’s more aware of is watching behi, what comes behind me. And so that’s something that people need to, uh, that I think that people need to try to do is when do not get so tunnel vision, focusing on front of you, focusing on the line moving in front of you, composition to yourself, to a point where you can actually through your peripherals or see from the side that you can see behind you as well as in front of you.

[00:15:15] Peter: I think it’s, it’s, you know, It’s interesting that you mentioned that. So, so our, we have a dog, I have a rescue that I, I rescued a couple years ago. The, the, the Covid dog, I swore to my daughter we’d never get, you know, now he’s two and a half years old. But, um, the interesting thing is when we’re walking down the street or going to the dog park or whatever, if, if he notices something, I. That seems amiss even before I notice it. The first thing he does is pull on my leash so that he’s walking in front of Jessa, my daughter. Right? So he’s protecting her. He say, he’s like, yeah, Peter, you’re on your own. Screw you. I’m gonna, I’m gonna watch the kid. But it’s amazing how he automatically does that and, and when we sleep, um, she’s, you know, she’s with her mom a few nights week. She’s with me a few next week when she’s with me she, the dog sleeps under her bed. Will not, you know, right next to her, will not, um, uh, I can’t get ’em to come in my room for anything. So, so no question that dogs are much more aware, I think, than humans are. I wanna bring up one final point. It’s, it’s, it’s a shame that I have to bring this up.

The thing about ADHD or most neurodiversity is we’re great under pressure. Right. We’re terrible at normal everyday things. Right. I won’t remember to take the trash out, but if this, God forbid there’s a fire in my building, I will back, I’ll get the whole building safely out. Right. So, right, right. One of the things about that though is, is I guess a two-part question. When you are neurodiverse, a lot of neurodiversity means that your brain does not make enough dopamine, serotonin, and adrenaline um, when you’re doing stuff that’s boring but makes all you ever need and more when you’re doing stuff that you like. Okay. I know for instance, when I’m skydiving, when I jump outta the plane and I land, I am essentially high as a kite. I. I, my body has given me so much adrenaline, so much domine. I’ll put my stuff down and go pull out my laptop and write 10,000 words right in like a half an hour. The question is, if you are, if you find yourself, God forbid, in in an active shooter situation or some sort of situation of, you know, yesterday, a half [an hour] from my apartment, we had a, we had a garage collapse, right? And, and you know, people were, it was rush hour people, tons of people were in there getting their cars and .How do you train your body to sort of not go into overdrive. I imagine when you’re in a situation and things start to get hairy, right, and your goal, mm-hmm. Your job is to protect your client. How do you use that adrenaline but not let it take over so that you might do stupid stuff or stuff out of your training or whatever. You know, when you’re high, when you’re high on adrenaline and you see things happen, you’re running on on adrenaline, dopamine, your body’s instinct tells you to get outta there, to get safe to, to, to do what have. Yes. And so, because that’s why your body’s making the adrenaline stuff like that. When you’re ADHD and your body’s making the adrenaline, it makes a just a ton more right to compensate for the part you don’t have. So how do you train your body not to go overboard to sort of say, okay, let’s use that energy, but let’s stay focused and do what we have to do. See what I’m saying? In other words, how do you, when you’re in a situation, you see a threat? How do you keep your client safe and not. Because the second you see a threat, I’m sure your, your, your synapses hit and you get that instant rush. What do we all do? We’re human beings. How do you, how do you use that to your advantage and not let it go crazy? 

[00:18:17] Roy: Well, that’s a very good question. I’ll tell you how, for myself and people in my profession, law enforcement, military, firefighters, executive protection specialist in that line of work, cause we all correctional officers are, are, are very similar in that line of work. We classify them as law enforcement as well. Um, As it was explained to me by, by my doctor, is this. Our testosterone, our adrenaline is constantly at a certain level that’s higher than normal people. Um, because of the training, because of what we have to do, and we classify it on colors. So we are constantly at yellow. Our alert level is at yellow. So our, our, our adrenaline and our testosterone is already higher than most normal people because of our state of readiness that we have to be at constantly. So when an event occurs, we are already there. So we were able to react and, and do the things that we need to do effective to our job, based off of, off of that. So we’re already there. So it’s easy for us to function. It’s easy for us to, to do what we need to do, get our client out of there, make an arrest, go into a building, you know, deal with a, a prison riot. Um, or what have you for the profession because we’re already trained to be at this certain level. Now for the, for people in normal society. You are not normally your, your levels aren’t at the same level as we are on a constant basis. So when yours gets increased, yeah, your body’s going to react a certain way and you may not be able to control that adrenaline rush. Now, the good thing about our bodies is, is when we are in a hype situation, a hyper intensive situation, we may not know exactly the effects of the adrenaline until the situation has actually calmed down a little bit, and then now we’re feeling the effects. So the thing that, that I like to, uh, express to people is the more you train, the more you go on scenarios, the more you have this type of, uh, settings, the easier it’s for your body to adapt. Um, we used to do this, this. Once again, it’s more drills. We used to do this drill when I was working on the border. Um, my CO used to come by and said, okay, gimme five scenarios uh, just right now that you went through your head in the last two hours of situations that can happen. You know? So we had to go through scenarios constantly, even when there was nothing going on about what could happen. What we were gonna do, how we were gonna do it, et cetera. And then be able to explain it to him. And then we do that constantly throughout, throughout the week. Now that was training for us that when something happened, we knew exactly what we needed to do, we were ready to do it, and we can adapt and overcome the situation. Um, and that’s what the good thing about trainings are. Um, even first shooter situations, active, ..Um, situational awareness trainings that more when more people can go to these things. And what it does is it allows your body to adapt and understand what’s going on so that you can effectively navigate what you need to do. And then your body will adjust. And then the true adrenaline, the true rush will hit after, and then you have to, then your body just has to calm down because you, you could end up going to shock at that point in time. Huh? 

[00:21:45] Peter: Yeah. Makes, I guess, I guess it’s similar to like, you know, I do, I do cold plunges, right? And cold showers and things like that. And the more I do them, the less. Likely I am to have that, you know, the, the, the, the instinct breath. Right? Which is what happens when you drown, ed: [or hit the ground?]. So, yeah, I guess, I guess that makes sense. Less likely to, 

[00:22:01] Roy: well you’re doing boxing, right? Yeah. So you’re training in boxing, so you’re training all the time to technically get punched in the face.

[00:22:09] Peter: Yep! hahaha

[00:22:09] Roy: You know, and how to avoid a punch, so it’s easier for you to adapt once that situation happens. You’re gonna adapt a lot quicker than someone who’s never taken a boxing class. They’re getting punched in their face and they might lose their mind cause they’re not gonna know what the, what, what’s going on. Yep. Where you’ll be able to adapt to that and then be able to, to counteract and move on. So. Right. And, and these good thing about these trainings, if you find the right trainer that’s going to not just give you the book or the classroom definition of what this is, but actually creates live scenarios so that you can actually experience it. Um, is invaluable because now you are actually feeling the effect. Because if you don’t know that someone’s gonna come to that door with a gun and try to hold you hostage, your body’s gonna react like it’s real. And that’s the key to get your body used to certain situations, to a point where it can react a lot.

[00:23:08] Peter: Yeah. Excellent. What a great, thank you so much Roy. This was really wonderful. Roy. Uh, how can people find you? What’s your website? Or, or, I know you have a great Instagram. Tell us your Instagram. 

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Telephone: (1+) 844-6-Viking.  Or dial: +1 (844) 684-5464.  ed: [you will need to use your human voice to communicate via this method. Likely a dial pad also]

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[00:23:17] Roy: Our Instagram is Viking_EPS. Um, our website is www.vikingEPS.Com. Um, and through there there’s links to email. You can call me, uh, via our company phone. Um, and like I said, through Instagram, we’re always monitoring Instagram. So like I said, we enjoy speaking with people, uh, connecting with people, networking with people. Um, I enjoy training and, and giving people tips. Uh, like I said, I did it for a client of mine in Houston. I just walked in and spoke with all the CEOs about how for workplace violence, because that’s, that’s a big thing that we’re, we’re doing now as a company. Um, And I, I gave them tips about, uh, about workplace violence and about how to keep themselves and their, their employees safe, uh, and avoid more workplace violence situations.

[00:24:06] Peter: Excellent. Thank you so much, Roy. I really appreciate your time. Guys. We’ve listened to Roy Smith. Very, very cool interview. What a what if, um, we went over, normally our interviews are 15 minutes. ed: [20 because ADHD] Totally went over and it was totally worth it. Really, really appreciate it. Thank you so much and we’ll definitely have you back as well.

[00:24:20] Roy: Thank you, Peter. I enjoyed it. Let me know. I’d be glad to come back at any time. 

[00:24:24] Peter: Awesome guys, as always, faster at Faster Normal. You can find me at Peter Shankman on all the socials. Send me an email peter The book, uh, the Boy with the Faster Brain continues to climb the charts, so if you haven’t grabbed yours already, grab it. If you have grabbed it, please leave a review on Amazon. If you leave a review on Amazon, let me know. I would love to thank you. We will see you next week. Another interview. Stay well, stay safe. Have a great day.

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